Board Thread:Short Stories/@comment-26186871-20151209194236

Like the new name? NO?!?! Don't you get it? It means we're not just using Super Paper Mario anymore! We're discussing the entire (official) Mario series, and the Sonic series as well! Well, time to explain the Underwhere and Overthere, from Super Paper Mario! This is placed on the earliest of the timeline for obvious reasons.

There was a time, long, long ago.. When the dimensions were still being formed.. Here are the creators of the dimensions: Queen Jaydes, and King Grambi. (In Super Paper Mario at least. I don't think they created us. Many universes exist. STOP IT COMMENTS!!! STOP IT!) Now, these two ruled the universe together, in harmony. They were proud of each oter, and proceeded to marry each other. You might think that this is what created purity magic in the first place, but.. Wouldn't it be destroyed later on after one moves to the Underwhere and the other the Overthere? That is illogical. However, thier child-Luvbi, was born. This was thier first child they ever had. (I would use Genesis style because this is similar to the Book of Genesis, but I've got a narrative OTHER than how Paper Mario's universe began. But hey, that's a HUGE bonus there! I mean, would this even bring forth the point?

"1 In the beginning, Queen Jaydes and King Grambi created the vast dimensions.

2 And they were formless and void, 'til the two added stuff to 'em.

3 Now, let us make our species, in our own image."

Uh, I don't think so. I would continue, but I think you get the point.)

Luvbi was named after thier love for her, and her love for them. This is when they started making the species of the dimensions. Now, there were three possible plans other than the current one, but there is a problem with all three.

Now, the creatures could be immortal just like the three, but there's one thing you've got to remeber-sin. (No, not the Bible, guys. Seriously, SIN is mentioned in Super Paper Mario. Once when crossing the lake of the Underwhere, the lake of the tears of sinners, and talking to Queen Jaydes who weighs your sins. I'm not making this up, OR applying Bible passages to the game.) Fact is, for Queen Jaydes to be banishing people to the Underwhere in the present, that must mean that she, and likely her husband as well, was quite jugemental and against sin. If these creatures would just stay where they were, wouldn't we have dimensions full of sin and nothing left? And juding by Queen Jayde's lack of knowledge about the void in Chapter 7, it is obvious these being are not omniscient, and because they couldn't, well, DESTROY THE VOID, they're not omnipotent. So, wouldn't there be a time when the creation, which went chaos, would rebel against, and possibly lock up the two creators? This wouldn't work out. ("But Freddy! Just create a wall between the two!" Even with that, sinfulness is opposition to the love this was meant for. Clearly, the duo still do not want a place overrun by sinners, because ot contradicts thier very purpose.)

Next we have the possibility of there BEING no aftergame. But, due to thier chid being Luvbi, and the way they have treated the people, we can still preserve that these are beings of love. Why, why, WHY would they let the very things they love, just vanish away? Seriously, that is NOT an act of love at all! This possibility is totally illogical!

Third, we could attempt to resolve the problem kf our first possibility by simply removing sin.. But we have a problem. THAT WOULD REMOVE FREE WILL!! There wouldn't BE life, or even love! They would just be mindless robots! Surely not something good, especially not like Luvbi! Seriously, that is the most illogical one of all! By trying to solve the problem, you ruined the reason to create these guys in the FIRST place!

The only plausible way to do this, is by creating afterlives. Places that at death, you are sent to. None can escape the afterlife.. Except if Queen Jaydes brings you back to life, but.. That has never happened. The only way we know she can do this is because she "revived" Mario, by taking him out. But fact is, he never died in the first place, can you really call that a revival?

Since sin is bad, and clearly not good, as we have seen being JUDGED against, wouldn't it be plausible to create two different possibilities? When you go to Queen Jaydes, that you can either be sent away to the Overthere, and rewarded for your greatness, or.. punished for your sinfulness? Not only does that discurage sin, but because they ahve created realities that they are outside of, there's no way they could be gotten to now! Also, now we have a way to have a place without sin.. WITHOUT removing free will! There we go! But each aftergame needed a ruler.. Thus, each one went to an aftergame, and ruled over it. This, however, meant there was no one to rule the dimensions anymore. After all, Lubvi ruling them? It doesn't make sense! Why exactly Jaydes chose the Underwhere and Grambi chose the Overthere? That, no man knows. And no phantom either, so I don't have an explanation. 